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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 9, 2020 11:39:14 GMT -6
I see where some Big Ten players are requesting better guidelines for covid testing protocols and safety.
What I am about to say is NOT intended to minimize anything in regards to Covid or any loss or suffering. I care about a sport but not to an extent to forgo what numbers say or risk. Therefore: I hope players also ask for better protocols for Driving, drinking, smoking, unprotected sex and a vast array of behaviors that would benefit them to a greater proportion than THEIR risk from Covid itself. In addition, these are facts. 1) till this burns they every place for about 30-60 deaths per 100k that site will be a site that has the potential for flairs at a higher rate. The ones on the lower end of that scale will have isolated areas (LTCF) that are at risk. The difference from 30-60 range is simply a contrast of the penetrance into the LTCF (Long term care facilities). 2) Counties like Alachua Florida where their mask usage is above 90% will not be as high but yet have a residual population of vulnerable 3) Therefore having a young population that has immunity in high numbers adds to the communities ability to isolate and use contract tracing to minimize flairs in the residual populations till God decides for this to leave by significant vaccine or simple herd immunity math or by absolute Devine interventions. 4) There are areas where their numbers are so low due to mitigation, population or etc that will have numerous little brush flairs of this till they too reach the level that areas whom have suffered burn thru have immunity. 5) Things DO OCCUR. With young people but statistically they are less than drownings or car wrecks and on the level of lightening strikes as to odds. However to those families this is as bad as Ebola etc 6) I apologize to anyone I may have offended but I have personality traits (Meyers Briggs ) that put me in a fact base area. 7) I don’t know if we will have football but we could here in the South. There are places that will have their surges during the fall. 8) Get your flu shots this year!!
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Post by cornhole on Aug 9, 2020 12:07:07 GMT -6
I see where some Big Ten players are requesting better guidelines for covid testing protocols and safety. What I am about to say is NOT intended to minimize anything in regards to Covid or any loss or suffering. I care about a sport but not to an extent to forgo what numbers say or risk. Therefore: I hope players also ask for better protocols for Driving, drinking, smoking, unprotected sex and a vast array of behaviors that would benefit them to a greater proportion than THEIR risk from Covid itself. In addition, these are facts. 1) till this burns they every place for about 30-60 deaths per 100k that site will be a site that has the potential for flairs at a higher rate. The ones on the lower end of that scale will have isolated areas (LTCF) that are at risk. The difference from 30-60 range is simply a contrast of the penetrance into the LTCF (Long term care facilities). 2) Counties like Alachua Florida where their mask usage is above 90% will not be as high but yet have a residual population of vulnerable 3) Therefore having a young population that has immunity in high numbers adds to the communities ability to isolate and use contract tracing to minimize flairs in the residual populations till God decides for this to leave by significant vaccine or simple herd immunity math or by absolute Devine interventions. 4) There are areas where their numbers are so low due to mitigation, population or etc that will have numerous little brush flairs of this till they too reach the level that areas whom have suffered burn thru have immunity. 5) Things DO OCCUR. With young people but statistically they are less than drownings or car wrecks and on the level of lightening strikes as to odds. However to those families this is as bad as Ebola etc 6) I apologize to anyone I may have offended but I have personality traits (Meyers Briggs ) that put me in a fact base area. 7) I don’t know if we will have football but we could here in the South. There are places that will have their surges during the fall. 8) Get your flu shots this year!! Facts just suck. You could NEVER get a job in DC, Chicago or California buzzman. Flu shots?? Is that some new Sino-plot to inject unsuspecting American Patriots with tracking devices?? I smell a rat here. Just TOO many facts.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 9, 2020 12:09:42 GMT -6
We play football here in US and in Italy they play futbol (good sport) but I see where Italian health officials are surprised by our response. They (those that said this) would not agree to a 25% gathering for football games. One quoted from Italy according Yahoo: “Do they not care about people?” If you multiply their population to be that of ours they would have 192k deaths by now. About 30k more than we have at present. You see regardless of the type of foooootball you play this virus is not playing favorites.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 9, 2020 12:11:04 GMT -6
Facts are not Important to some. I had better stay in the South!!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 9, 2020 19:56:16 GMT -6
Oops I forgot to discuss how the Big 10 player requests (demands) 50% of proceeds. I actually now have informed myself that if I pay college players then we no longer have covid risks. Hmm
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Post by crawlspace13 on Aug 10, 2020 8:07:37 GMT -6
I see where some Big Ten players are requesting better guidelines for covid testing protocols and safety. What I am about to say is NOT intended to minimize anything in regards to Covid or any loss or suffering. I care about a sport but not to an extent to forgo what numbers say or risk. Therefore: I hope players also ask for better protocols for Driving, drinking, smoking, unprotected sex and a vast array of behaviors that would benefit them to a greater proportion than THEIR risk from Covid itself. In addition, these are facts. 1) till this burns they every place for about 30-60 deaths per 100k that site will be a site that has the potential for flairs at a higher rate. The ones on the lower end of that scale will have isolated areas (LTCF) that are at risk. The difference from 30-60 range is simply a contrast of the penetrance into the LTCF (Long term care facilities). 2) Counties like Alachua Florida where their mask usage is above 90% will not be as high but yet have a residual population of vulnerable 3) Therefore having a young population that has immunity in high numbers adds to the communities ability to isolate and use contract tracing to minimize flairs in the residual populations till God decides for this to leave by significant vaccine or simple herd immunity math or by absolute Devine interventions. 4) There are areas where their numbers are so low due to mitigation, population or etc that will have numerous little brush flairs of this till they too reach the level that areas whom have suffered burn thru have immunity. 5) Things DO OCCUR. With young people but statistically they are less than drownings or car wrecks and on the level of lightening strikes as to odds. However to those families this is as bad as Ebola etc 6) I apologize to anyone I may have offended but I have personality traits (Meyers Briggs ) that put me in a fact base area. 7) I don’t know if we will have football but we could here in the South. There are places that will have their surges during the fall. 8) Get your flu shots this year!! Facts just suck. You could NEVER get a job in DC, Chicago or California buzzman. Flu shots?? Is that some new Sino-plot to inject unsuspecting American Patriots with tracking devices?? I smell a rat here. Just TOO many facts. Could we point out it's not just about dying? It's also about the impact on the local health systems. So obviously each area will be affected differently. I'm in what passes for rural Georgia. We have a relatively small hospital system when compared to Tallahassee or Atlanta, but it's a good size in normal circumstances. We're on our second surge and case load is equal or higher than in the spring when we also maxed out critical care (both ICU and IMCU). Critical care beds are full, meaning no care for anything like strokes or heart attacks is available. We have to transfer people out of the area for care, putting even more burden on stressed family. Some procedures are again being postponed for lack of resources. The hospital CEO put out a letter to the community basically begging them to continue precautions to lower transmission because he understands people are tired of it and getting lax. There are a lot of different factors at play that go beyond individual risk of death.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Aug 10, 2020 8:31:55 GMT -6
Football aint gonna happen in 2020. The virus is deadly but not as deadly as others we have seen the past few decades. But, the media didn't stir the pot in those cases. What makes it worse is these are kids attending universities employing liberal $hit head professors.
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Post by Trojan Warrior on Aug 10, 2020 9:37:15 GMT -6
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Post by pcbtrojan on Aug 10, 2020 10:31:52 GMT -6
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Aug 10, 2020 11:05:30 GMT -6
If the PAC 12 follows The Big 10 and cancels its season as it is expected to do, other P5 conferences will have no choice but to do the same. The liability exposure, to both the institutions and the decision makers as individuals, will force them to cancel. Can you imagine, a player in, say the SEC, gets sick with the virus and dies (this is just a thought exercise guys, not wishing this on anyone). The lawyers would say, “2 other conferences opted to not play based on the available data and you didn’t. Why?” The next question to the plaintiffs would be “For how much would you like them to write check?”
By extension, if the big boys go down, so do the G5 conferences for the reason stated above.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 10, 2020 11:40:30 GMT -6
Facts just suck. You could NEVER get a job in DC, Chicago or California buzzman. Flu shots?? Is that some new Sino-plot to inject unsuspecting American Patriots with tracking devices?? I smell a rat here. Just TOO many facts. Could we point out it's not just about dying? It's also about the impact on the local health systems. So obviously each area will be affected differently. I'm in what passes for rural Georgia. We have a relatively small hospital system when compared to Tallahassee or Atlanta, but it's a good size in normal circumstances. We're on our second surge and case load is equal or higher than in the spring when we also maxed out critical care (both ICU and IMCU). Critical care beds are full, meaning no care for anything like strokes or heart attacks is available. We have to transfer people out of the area for care, putting even more burden on stressed family. Some procedures are again being postponed for lack of resources. The hospital CEO put out a letter to the community basically begging them to continue precautions to lower transmission because he understands people are tired of it and getting lax. There are a lot of different factors at play that go beyond individual risk of death. I too am in a smaller rural hospital and you have good points. We came to a point where our ethics committee was established to determine who would get a ventilator. Thank God we have backed away from that cliff. However since death rates are fairly consistent given age etc. The hospitalization rates can actually be extrapolated from data. No it is not all about deaths but once you cross that critical mass you can use a calculation of somewhere from 0.6-1.0 per 100k and multiply that x5 to calculate the number of beds needed. ICU beds will be almost exact to the deaths in any one locale. Some are DNR and will succumb on covid floor and not be in ICU and there will always be those individuals that need ICU and ventilation that are not due to Covid. If an area not hit uses that higher end at 1 per 100 K deaths at peak covering a two to three weeks of the 6 week surge. One can calculate beds needed.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 10, 2020 11:50:30 GMT -6
We in rural areas have been trapped in a quandary. Fortunately we basically made it by the skin of our teeth thru the maximum surge. So: once rolling 7 day average of greater than 20 cases per 100k 1) 1 x 40 x population (per 100k) deaths (smaller populations are slightly screwed) (40 is the typical surge time and not indicative of greater length of time but will not over flow the hospitals) 2) Hospital beds x 5 above number 3) ICU beds equals total county death rates These should give areas that have yet to experience surge an approximate idea to what their needs are going to be and should cover most sites. There are going to be more flair sites
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 10, 2020 11:54:17 GMT -6
If the PAC 12 follows The Big 10 and cancels its season as it is expected to do, other P5 conferences will have no choice but to do the same. The liability exposure, to both the institutions and the decision makers as individuals, will force them to cancel. Can you imagine, a player in, say the SEC, gets sick with the virus and dies (this is just a thought exercise guys, not wishing this on anyone). The lawyers would say, “2 other conferences opted to not play based on the available data and you didn’t. Why?” The next question to the plaintiffs would be “For how much would you like them to write check?” By extension, if the big boys go down, so do the G5 conferences for the reason stated above. Sad but true
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Post by troyfan on Aug 10, 2020 14:43:33 GMT -6
So if the Power 5 conferences cancel, dare I say the Group of 5 have their day in the sun and get some prime time Saturday night games? Maybe a group of 5 National champion in 2020.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 10, 2020 15:42:37 GMT -6
So if the Power 5 conferences cancel, dare I say the Group of 5 have their day in the sun and get some prime time Saturday night games? Maybe a group of 5 National champion in 2020. If the 5 cases of Covid don’t attract too many lawyers.
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Post by trojan2003 on Aug 10, 2020 16:59:08 GMT -6
Nebraska football prepared to play independent schedule if Big Ten cancels
seasonhttps://fansided.com/2020/08/10/nebraska-football-prepared-go-rogue-play-independent-schedule/
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Post by Mr. Ho on Aug 10, 2020 17:49:13 GMT -6
So if the Power 5 conferences cancel, dare I say the Group of 5 have their day in the sun and get some prime time Saturday night games? Maybe a group of 5 National champion in 2020. If the 5 cases of Covid don’t attract too many lawyers. Why not. MLB seems to have recovered from their earlier hiccup. Just bubblize them on campus.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Aug 11, 2020 6:37:01 GMT -6
If the 5 cases of Covid don’t attract too many lawyers. Why not. MLB seems to have recovered from their earlier hiccup. Just bubblize them on campus. Have they? They just had another issue with Cardinals and teams are having to suspend players who break protocol
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Aug 11, 2020 7:09:09 GMT -6
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