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Post by Navarre Trojan on Apr 16, 2017 13:57:07 GMT -6
Not going to argue any if these, it would be useless. I do have one question, "why in the WORLD would you bring in a baseball man? Why wouldn't you want a softball man (or woman)? Was referring to a baseball background. The UF coach, TN coach, Alabama coach, Auburn coach and Arizona coach all had baseball backgrounds either as a player or coach. Fundementals are the same. You can easily transfer from baseball to softball coaching but it would be much harder to go from softball to baseball. All I stated were facts about some of the top programs, nothing more, nothing less. Fundamentals are the same? WHAT? I played fast pitch softball for 20 years, never, ever played behind the bag at first or third, you can't leave the base until the ball is thrown, in fast pitch, no leading off, no pick off. Situations in softball that almost ALWAYS dictate a bunt, may never EVER be considered in baseball. The "fundamentals" are no where CLOSE to the same, except for the count, the number of outs and players on the field! Most everything else is different! Come on man!
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Post by Troystet on Apr 16, 2017 14:58:09 GMT -6
Was referring to a baseball background. The UF coach, TN coach, Alabama coach, Auburn coach and Arizona coach all had baseball backgrounds either as a player or coach. Fundementals are the same. You can easily transfer from baseball to softball coaching but it would be much harder to go from softball to baseball. All I stated were facts about some of the top programs, nothing more, nothing less. Fundamentals are the same? WHAT? I played fast pitch softball for 20 years, never, ever played behind the bag at first or third, you can't leave the base until the ball is thrown, in fast pitch, no leading off, no pick off. Situations in softball that almost ALWAYS dictate a bunt, may never EVER be considered in baseball. The "fundamentals" are no where CLOSE to the same, except for the count, the number of outs and players on the field! Most everything else is different! Come on man! Coached high level travel ball. Fundementals are basically the same..cutoffs, fielding etc. most of the top programs we faced had two common factors...male HC, Baseball background. There are some strategy differences in the game but you still throw the ball, hit the ball, field the ball. Last two 16u teams my daughter played on were both coached by former D1 college baseball players and both teams won multiple championships and state tities
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Apr 16, 2017 15:23:44 GMT -6
Fundamentals are the same? WHAT? I played fast pitch softball for 20 years, never, ever played behind the bag at first or third, you can't leave the base until the ball is thrown, in fast pitch, no leading off, no pick off. Situations in softball that almost ALWAYS dictate a bunt, may never EVER be considered in baseball. The "fundamentals" are no where CLOSE to the same, except for the count, the number of outs and players on the field! Most everything else is different! Come on man! Coached high level travel ball. Fundementals are basically the same..cutoffs, fielding etc. most of the top programs we faced had two common factors...male HC, Baseball background. There are some strategy differences in the game but you still throw the ball, hit the ball, field the ball. Last two 16u teams my daughter played on were both coached by former D1 college baseball players and both teams won multiple championships and state tities . Oh, I see, yes you are correct, baseball, slow pitch, coach pitch, machine pitch, t-ball, ALL throw, hit, hit the cut off, run the bases, all the same! Ridiculous! Why do you always give us your resume. I PROMISE YOU ONE THING, I've turned down playing in more softball tournaments than you've played AND coached in.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 16, 2017 18:01:34 GMT -6
Coached high level travel ball. Fundementals are basically the same..cutoffs, fielding etc. most of the top programs we faced had two common factors...male HC, Baseball background. There are some strategy differences in the game but you still throw the ball, hit the ball, field the ball. Last two 16u teams my daughter played on were both coached by former D1 college baseball players and both teams won multiple championships and state tities . Oh, I see, yes you are correct, baseball, slow pitch, coach pitch, machine pitch, t-ball, ALL throw, hit, hit the cut off, run the bases, all the same! Ridiculous! Why do you always give us your resume. I PROMISE YOU ONE THING, I've turned down playing in more softball tournaments than you've played AND coached in. Didnt you give me your resume to oh God of softball. you know everything as usual. That's why I hate this board. I make a observation and get attacked by all of you. Good day
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Apr 16, 2017 18:13:25 GMT -6
. Oh, I see, yes you are correct, baseball, slow pitch, coach pitch, machine pitch, t-ball, ALL throw, hit, hit the cut off, run the bases, all the same! Ridiculous! Why do you always give us your resume. I PROMISE YOU ONE THING, I've turned down playing in more softball tournaments than you've played AND coached in. Didnt you give me your resume to oh God of softball. you know everything as usual. That's why I hate this board. I make a observation and get attacked by all of you. Good day You didn't make an "observation" you tauted an opinion that men with BASEBALL backgrounds are better prepared to coach woman's college softball. That the "fundamentals" were the same therefore leaving an impression that a man with a baseball background is better suited. THAT friend, is what you wrote. Then went on to tell about your prowess as a U16 Travel Coach, as if that gave you "expertise" in fast pitch softball. I'm not a softball God, not a recruiting God, not a former college football player with lots of contacts in and around all the athletic programs and high school programs, friends with a sports agent, never coached a U16 girls Softball team, none of that is on my resume. Get on me if you want, don't care. But you will not twist where the conversation came from and what you said, read it above! BTW, 48 College coaches have won 900+ games in their career, 28 happen to be women!
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Post by Troystet on Apr 16, 2017 18:22:21 GMT -6
Didnt you give me your resume to oh God of softball. you know everything as usual. That's why I hate this board. I make a observation and get attacked by all of you. Good day You didn't make an "observation" you tauted an opinion that men with BASEBALL backgrounds are better prepared to coach woman's college softball. That the "fundamentals" were the same therefore leaving an impression that a man with a baseball background is better suited. THAT friend, is what you wrote. Then went on to tell about your prowess as a U16 Travel Coach, as if that gave you "expertise" in fast pitch softball. I'm not a softball God, not a recruiting God, not a former college football player with lots of contacts in and around all the athletic programs and high school programs, friends with a sports agent, never coached a U16 girls Softball team, none of that is on my resume. Get on me if you want, don't care. But you will not twist where the conversation came from and what you said, read it above! BTW, 48 College coaches have won 900+ games in their career, 28 happen to be women! As usual you don't read anything I said. You are like the rest of the clique on this board. Yes or no answer to what I stated? Alabama, TN, Auburn, FL, ULL, Arizona do they have male coaches with baseball backgrounds? I also said there were good female coaches but currently most of the top level programs which I mentioned have male coaches. If you wish to disprove thst these programs don't have male coaches, please do. I never stated I had any prowess as a coach, I stated "I had coached". My mention of 16U with my daughter I didn't coach, I said "Her coaches had played college baseball" and we won championships with them. I also stated the vast majority of the travel organizations had male head coaches "Fact" read and not assume. And please show where I mentioned "Friend" in the softball thread? I mentioned a friend of mine who is a "baseball agent" defending the Troy baseball staff and how hard it is to find pitching. So please if you want to critique me like most everyone else, please state correctly what I said. I really don't wish to post for this very reason but I will defend myself when someone states stuff that I never said. You can assume or interpret what I said but don't state I said something that I didn't. That is all
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Post by pctrojan16 on Apr 17, 2017 6:07:56 GMT -6
honestly i hate to agree with stet but having a male coach would probably help our softball team. Statically if you look at male vs female HC teams at all levels, more male coached tea,s win championships. Numbers and facts can not be sexist however, a lot of you seem ignorant to that fact.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Apr 17, 2017 11:22:55 GMT -6
Stats? You want stats?
13 of the 20 winningest coaches in NCAA Softball history are female.
Also, the percentage of baseball-related male coaches in softball will proportionally be higher due to baseball being a male sport. Using this split stat, one would eliminate half of the possible coaches strictly due to gender, which is a violation of Title IX. I am glad you folks aren't making decisions in the athletic department, otherwise we would be tied up in litigation for years.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 17, 2017 12:57:08 GMT -6
Stats? You want stats? 13 of the 20 winningest coaches in NCAA Softball history are female. Also, the percentage of baseball-related male coaches in softball will proportionally be higher due to baseball being a male sport. Using this split stat, one would eliminate half of the possible coaches strictly due to gender, which is a violation of Title IX. I am glad you folks aren't making decisions in the athletic department, otherwise we would be tied up in litigation for years. Then why is UF, Auburn, Alabama, Arizona, AZ State, TN, or ULL not in litigation? Because Title IX does not protect women coaches. It states that you must have a equal number of women's sports to men's sports. Before title IX 90% of women's sports were coached by women, today it's 40%. Title IX has actually been detrimental to female coaches.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Apr 17, 2017 13:51:08 GMT -6
Not interviewing a candidate strictly because he/she doesn't have an extensive background in a certain discipline can get you in to hot water, if/when the grounds of the discipline are gender related.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 17, 2017 14:31:52 GMT -6
Not interviewing a candidate strictly because he/she doesn't have an extensive background in a certain discipline can get you in to hot water, if/when the grounds of the discipline are gender related. True, but you can hire whoever you want. USA Today had a article on how there has been a dramatic decrease in women coaches in college athletics since Title IX..90% to 40% and Troy is about at that average. Male coaches in women's volleyball, soccer, track, cross country and golf and female coach in basketball, softball and tennis. Not sure why there has been such a dramatic shift, the article only stated that universities evidently are leaning to more male head coaches. I guess Title IX has been a blessing for female athletes and a curse for female coaches.
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Post by saintflorian on Apr 18, 2017 7:46:31 GMT -6
Was referring to a baseball background. The UF coach, TN coach, Alabama coach, Auburn coach and Arizona coach all had baseball backgrounds either as a player or coach. Fundementals are the same. You can easily transfer from baseball to softball coaching but it would be much harder to go from softball to baseball. All I stated were facts about some of the top programs, nothing more, nothing less. Fundamentals are the same? WHAT? I played fast pitch softball for 20 years, never, ever played behind the bag at first or third, you can't leave the base until the ball is thrown, in fast pitch, no leading off, no pick off. Situations in softball that almost ALWAYS dictate a bunt, may never EVER be considered in baseball. The "fundamentals" are no where CLOSE to the same, except for the count, the number of outs and players on the field! Most everything else is different! Come on man! Reading you two are like watching two porcupines mate
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Post by pctrojan16 on Apr 20, 2017 16:56:50 GMT -6
Atleast our girls don't get busted for pot like Auburn!!
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Post by Troystet on Apr 20, 2017 19:54:27 GMT -6
Atleast our girls don't get busted for pot like Auburn!! Sadly I know one of the girls. Her family has to be devastated She wasn't raised like that. I hope and pray this is her wake up call
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Apr 21, 2017 8:52:58 GMT -6
Atleast our girls don't get busted for pot like Auburn!! Sadly I know one of the girls. Her family has to be devastated She wasn't raised like that. I hope and pray this is her wake up call My question is where was JF3 since he dates or dated on of the girls.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Apr 25, 2017 10:02:55 GMT -6
A series sweep sure does quiet the trolls.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Apr 25, 2017 10:27:56 GMT -6
A series sweep sure does quiet the trolls. Umm... Troy swept an Appalachian State that is 0-18 in conference play... That's not something that has quieted the "trolls." The thread has gotten old already. facebookthumbdown2
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Apr 25, 2017 11:25:18 GMT -6
Troy won and some folks here just can't stand it.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Apr 25, 2017 11:26:00 GMT -6
Wow - I come back to the softball board and find all of these comments - yay! First of all, I started this thread and I want everybody to play nice. Mullins originally signed a four year contract allegedly, so most likely she has until next year to get it together. I don't care who the coach is as long as they can recruit, coach, appreciate the alumni and people who donated toward the nice stadium she gets to go to everyday, and win. The freshmen are batting terribly yet continue to play, so I am guessing that she recruited them and is trying to get them playing time for the future. We desperately need a transfer pitcher to come in this summer and maybe we need a new pitching coach. I would like for there to be at least one male on staff - either head coach or pitching coach.
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Post by Hemi Man on Apr 25, 2017 11:35:40 GMT -6
Troy won and some folks here just can't stand it. Some here (hint hint) fired Cunningham four months ago and all he did was wave at them from the big dance.
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Post by Hemi Man on Apr 25, 2017 11:38:34 GMT -6
Wow - I come back to the softball board and find all of these comments - yay! First of all, I started this thread and I want everybody to play nice. Mullins originally signed a four year contract allegedly, so most likely she has until next year to get it together. I don't care who the coach is as long as they can recruit, coach, appreciate the alumni and people who donated toward the nice stadium she gets to go to everyday, and win. The freshmen are batting terribly yet continue to play, so I am guessing that she recruited them and is trying to get them playing time for the future. We desperately need a transfer pitcher to come in this summer and maybe we need a new pitching coach. I would like for there to be at least one male on staff - either head coach or pitching coach. I would be curious what the budget for softball looks like and what kind of money is available to go out and get these coaches and/or players. I have a sneaky suspicion that there's a lot going on behind the scenes on and off the field that is severely crippling this team right now.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 25, 2017 13:31:59 GMT -6
Wow - I come back to the softball board and find all of these comments - yay! First of all, I started this thread and I want everybody to play nice. Mullins originally signed a four year contract allegedly, so most likely she has until next year to get it together. I don't care who the coach is as long as they can recruit, coach, appreciate the alumni and people who donated toward the nice stadium she gets to go to everyday, and win. The freshmen are batting terribly yet continue to play, so I am guessing that she recruited them and is trying to get them playing time for the future. We desperately need a transfer pitcher to come in this summer and maybe we need a new pitching coach. I would like for there to be at least one male on staff - either head coach or pitching coach. I would be curious what the budget for softball looks like and what kind of money is available to go out and get these coaches and/or players. I have a sneaky suspicion that there's a lot going on behind the scenes on and off the field that is severely crippling this team right now. With the exception of ULL and possibly South I would think our budget is right up with the rest of the conference and facility wise we have as good as anybody. But I do agree with you that something is going on and I hope it gets fixed
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